2005-08-17

5M comes out swingin' at the ESI's


Well, I'm glad she's defending herself. It's about time, 5M.

15 comments:

4th Dwarf said...

We had 5 misconceptions. Did ye spot that? For once there's a list about the lass that goes to a fifth item.

Oops, she doesn't like "lass".

At any rate, I can't argue back.

1)She knows M better than any of us;

2) I don't remember suggestin' she's weak or clingy anyway;

3)"A bit of an anxiety disorder" and "prolonged, unresolved grief" might sound like depression to me, but I'm no psychologistician;

4) I don't know what semiotic means; and

5) All right. "Lass" is out. I can't use either of these "C" words she offers. They're not respectful and given that I'm gettin' ready for September 19th, I'm limited to Piratical expressions. How about "the wee she-demon"?

coyote said...

And I, being (partly) symbolic myself, appreciate her use of the word 'semiotic'. But aren't appearances in this virtual space kinda illusory... ? Not that I would know.

coyote said...

And I can see we're in for it, since Suze found the South Park Generator.

5th Muse said...

Oh, I wish I knew how to upload. That's a fetching image, Apostle. Is that you? (It doesn't look a thing like me, I'm afraid.)

The Independent Observer said...

Oh my God! She killed 4th Dwarf!

Conch Shell said...

Okay, I see a problem brewing. 5M still professes to love M. This is not good.

6th Apostle said...

And I thought we were making some progress. Closure is a difficult thing to get to.

On the other hand, there's love or there's LOVE or there's LUV. It could be just plain old platonic love. The question is whether it is a longing love. The kind of feeling that will keep you from longing for someone else. Something that will occupy your mind at the expense of opening your heart to someone new.

If 5M has that kind of love for M, I'm afraid we're back to the usual cycle.

Conch Shell said...

Personally, I think it's delusional love -- she's in love with the version of M she believes him to be, but which he is not and never was. And that's a hard one to get over -- the mind is so capable of creating that idyllic person, if only, if only . . . that real people can't compete against.
5M, if I can offer advice (which others have said I should not), practice thinking about all the annoying, egocentric, selfish things he's done. And remove all the good words about who he says he is, and judge instead by his actions.

Conch Shell said...

And btw, I never thought M was the LL type.

4th Dwarf said...

Ah, Conchie, I'm having a deja vu here. As though I once heard the same advice from you meself.

And if I did, the thought I had was "all well and good, but isn't one of the hallmarks of love accepting the other persons faults?"

Conch Shell said...

Hey, we kind of match now. Okay, touche pirate, but I'd argue love needs to be based on reality first, not a false mental concoction. And, besides, we know 5M doesn't love M's: asexuality, constant need for admiration, insensitivity, selfishness, driving, bad moods, etc.
Next: I'd like to think the love lexicon should include: one cannot honestly love someone who does not love you back. You can: lust after, admire, respect, fantasize about delusionally, use as chase object in hunting game -- but not love, because that requires two (or more) to create together.

6th Apostle said...

Ah, Conchie, you write of love much like Ephesus to the Corinthians. On that note, I'm off to a conference at the Vatican. We can only have them when Benny's out of town.

coyote said...

Benny Dicked? Great name for a pope... But guys, cool yer jets. Maybe she still loves him. So what? It's only been two freakin' weeks since she accepted the overt overness of it all. That's not enough time in anybody's calendar, Julian, Gregorian or seasonal, to process a failed, and for her, committed, relationship.

Yeah, Conch, I know you favoured instant dating. But we must acknowledge the necessity of a slow and painstaking process of disentangling the roots of memories and feelings from one's psyche and holding them to the sun.

It's the reason I keep suggesting taking a little time to become friends with yourself again after a romantic bustup. Ya really gotta slow down, sit down, talk with people, figure these things out. And heal some. Not just start pinballing between the Lava Fates as if none of it ever happened. That way lies rump of skunk and madness...

5th Muse said...

Good advice, all. Merci.

The Independent St. Christopher Observer said...

May thoust journey safely, 6th Apostle. And beware the pigeons in Vatican Square.